At the end of our commutes, we were both exhausted, but he was far more aggravated on top of that, due to the inherent frustration that comes with that kind of slow-moving traffic. Those are now considered commutable distances, even though those are far away. The LW is well within their reason to search for another job or another place to live. This seems not-that-abnormal based on things my southern CA based friends have said about their commutes. We used to live the next county over, and our commute was easily 45+ minutes (including daycare dropoff). Ill also mention that Ive been here for 13 years, and I dont know anyone who does a 2 hour commute. Or at least, not by SoCal standards! He had to take the 580 through the mountains to get to Fremont, which is a total bottleneck so it always sucked. And an above ground system in some places that limits train speed & number of cars. It was 31 miles door to door. was I wrong to be put off by interviewing on Bring Your Kids to Work Day? My husband works in construction so he has to go wherever the job site is, that varies from 10 minutes to 90 minutes, sometimes via the freeway and sometimes not. It worked for a while (about 3 years), but only because all the stars were aligned to make it feasible: my husband also worked long hours, we didnt have kids, I could travel much of the distance on bus/train and indulge my love of reading en route, and I loved the job. My commute in Sacramento is 20-30 minutes average. I have a 45 minute commute 1-2 days a week and 10 minutes the rest of the days. Robert Fratta, 65, is scheduled to receive a lethal injection for the November 1994 fatal shooting of his wife, Farah, amid a contentious divorce and custody fight for their three children. Id say move closer to your job, honestly, if you can. I dont love it, but I like where I live, I like that my method of commuting is relatively cheap (I could choose another method, but Id pay significantly more to do so), and I like that taking public transit allows me to do other things with my commute time. I usually commute by bike, which is about seven miles because of the path, and takes 45 minutes or so. I live in The New Forest and work in London which is a 2 hour drive and I sometimes do it twice a week. On a good day my commute is 90 minutes, on the worst it has been 3.5 hours. In 1990. I live on the edge of Boston and have either worked in the city or had a reverse commute for a decade, but given the whimsical nature of Boston/suburban road layout and our subway system in relation to where my apartment actually is, the shortest commute Ive ever had has been 45 minutes door to door, usually closer to an hour. I would say 45-60 minutes seems to be the norm among my colleagues with a few outliers either way. My boss now lives in Whittier, his commute is AT LEAST 2 hours on a good day. My (Seattle) commute is about 25 minutes of bus and walking. Yeah, this is an interesting point. Now my commute is an easy 15 minutes. LA is an entirely different level of traffic. OP, can you take the blue line into DTLA and then Uber/Rideshare into WeHo? I grew up in Fairfield/Vallejo area, in fact, for that exact reason it was where my parents could afford to live, and my dad commuted from there to Hayward for years. People in my tiny, rural hometown thought she was crazy. Check out audiobooks! And I think thats totally fair! I travel to coastal California a lot for work and find that many professionals there seem to think of a ~2 hour commute as fairly typical, and express disbelief at the idea that most commutes are shorter than a half hour. You are crossing the ENTIRE LA metropolitan area no matter how you cut it. Long commutes come with the booming economy & the sunshine. Oh, missed the only twice a week bit. It sounds like L.A. commutes are hellish by definition, but it seems like it shouldnt be impossible to find something where at least your hours are a little more flexible. Alternately, you could do the South Bay (San Pedro/Palos Verde/Torrence/Manhattan Beach). Employees who are called back to work on a holiday are entitled to at least 2 hours pay at the holiday premium pay rate (5 U.S.C. door to door. Thank goodness for small Midwestern cities! I couldnt handle that. MUNI IS THE WORST. UGH, have lived in the valley, 0/10, would not repeat. Totally fine. I hate the day the decide to change that bridge. Buses all the way. I live in New York, about 3.5 miles from my office. In most metro areas, thatll mean much, much higher housing costs. Definitely love the straight shot commute. If you are a have important hobbies, are very social, have people/pets you like to spend time with or have to care for, have a lot of housekeeping/errands you need to do.and your commute is keeping you from those things for too long, then a commute like this probably isnt for you. The rest of the year would probably be fine weather-wise! Fire Pro > Blog > Blog > 2 hour commute twice a week. My best friend had a 2-hour commute. :(, If you give me some idea of what you like, I can make audiobook recommendations! Welcome to CA! But then, Im a person who prioritizes short commutes even if it means paying a lot more for housing I recently moved to a more expensive area so that I could have a door-to-desk trip of 15 minutes. Personally I couldnt do it. Or Glendale to Long Beach. I have 9am start 4 out of 5 days a week so I'm basically waking up at 6 and getting the bus at half 7 to compensate for traffic. I have a 10-15 min drive to/from work. I remember how I felt about it two years after and can promise that compared to then I feel a lot more confident and comforable now (~5 years out). I will be living at home. I used to do a job with a 1.5 hour commute (walk to subway, subway to train, train to other train, bus to parking lot, 15 minute walk across mall parking lot) and when I was complaining to my dad he said bummer. 2 hours! Im glad youre making a change! But I will say even when I worked 12 miles from my home, it was 40-45 minutes. The time of day changes whether a neighborhood or block is busy or echoingly empty, whether the subway is packed with commuters, sports fans, tourists, or concert goers, or if its spooky with just you and some person that could be coming back from a casting call for vampires. I got really spoiled with my last job though (5 minute commute) and even my 30 mins feels like forever to me. As others have. I commuted from the IE to West Hollywood for the first 2 years of my job out of college. He works, reads, or naps for the 4-4.5 hour round trip commute. Also, are you able to use surface streets rather than freeways for your commute? My current commute from the northwest corner of OC to the south Irvine area takes me 45 minutes and I think this is roughly standard for this general area. I had to do a 50 mile 1 way commute during a couple of limited stints a little over a decade ago (both from my moms once was for a 6 month internship; the second time was for about 2 months when I was between housing in grad school), and those commutes ended up being 1-1.5 hours, depending on traffic. But its much more relaxing than driving from Toronto to Barrie. But Ive done the 90-minute standing each way commute too. If youve ever seen LA traffic in a movie or on the news, where the freeways look like parking lots, you are seeing the reality of it- some places look like that almost all day long! Invest in it! I hope you find a great job that is closer. Is your work near a subway line? Would any of those get you there faster? This is interesting to hear! I can think of a few senior execs who might but they are not in the office 5 days per week; they are either on the road as part of their job (sales) or have worked out a WFH/remote schedule. I was excited if it only took 1.5 hrs. My commute is about 40-45 minutes going into the city (shuttle to metro, then about 25 minute metro ride assuming no delays). If you're working a long day (especially with overtime) you find yourself with very little time to do anything outside of work. Yep- bay area can be really really bad. Alisons absolutely right whats acceptable to you is what matters, not what your boyfriend considers acceptable. Hopefully soon Ill get to spend more time at home. No wonder. Plus I saved so much money not driving and just listened to music and enjoyed my coffee. A 2-hour commute is on the very high side of normal here. In the car its about 1.5 hours each way, on a good day. I paid out the nose for it in rent, but it was worth it. And the smog in LA is disgusting. 6am hour -- power outtages impact Bellevue/Issaquah and eastern King County after overnight wind storms, still no new Republican House Speaker after 6 votes, US alpine skiing phenom Mikaela Shiffrin is about to topple some career records for women's skiing, Lynnwood WA . It looks to be normal, but awful. On not so good days (every day except Mondays), its more like 2-2.5 hours. My old job used to get us to commute to a neighbouring city a couple of times a week- 1.5-2 hours each way. Husband has a drive thats almost always about 55 minutes and much prefers it to a previous commute that was shorter on average could be anywhere from 30-90 minutes. I visited SF for the first time last year, and I found the traffic there to be even worse than in NYC, and thats really saying something. As someone who grew in Rural Washington, I completely understand! My former job was less than 12 mi. I live in the DC metro area so long commutes are just the reality of my existence. Yes! Not in LA, but I was held at gun point by a group of teens in Bushwick near a train stop walking home 2 years ago (if you google it a few reports will come up) and I still have slight PTSD from that. Oh man. So you can categorically say that your 2+ hour commute is not normal. Yes it goes through those neighborhoods but I never once felt threatened or scared or anything. Not usually calls on the train, but email correspondence, reading, etc. For my next job I am trying very hard to not have to cross the river. Always awful unless I did seriously shifted hours. Unfortunately that is not unusual for LA. He liked the job okay, but he ended up leaving just because he couldnt deal with the commute. I know some people that do 1-1.5 hour commutes from outlaying rural areas into my city to work; employment options are scarce in really tiny towns and until they have another oil boom they wont get anything for their house. The folks with less traffic during their commute hours consider 1.5 hours not bad. The average commute [] Id walk out of my job before the first week ended. The previous owner of a place I do some IC work flew helicopters as a hobby and there was an old helipad behind the building. Really test it. My commute in Philly was like that. As others have said, doesnt matter whats normal. You probably wont get this unless you commute in CA, did he say its the first day of spring? Absolutely fine. Im super late to the party (hooray vacation and Feedly), but I lived in Anaheim and worked at USC (downtown LA) for a couple of years. I also knew many many people who commuted to the central valley from the Bay Area on a daily basis because thats where they could afford to buy a house and that could be two hours each way which sounded like a nightmare (the commute and cost of housing is why I no longer live in CA). Sure, traffic lights are a bore, but sometimes its a little easier. Music is a different matter, because I wont lose the plot if my mind drifts away for a bit. To answer your overall question, you can be successful with strength training 2x/wk, but it will come down to how structured your programming is in terms of volume, repetition, intensity, and progressive overload. Im very open about the fact that I will not consider a commute that long (whether its by car or PT) ever again. 05-01-2023 2. I cant tolerate a life where I live 90 minutes from the things I like and/or need to get to. My daughter is almost always the first at daycare, and last to leave. During busier projects, their preference is to be in more regularly. If Id done that commute via freeways, it would have taken at least an hour each way. Only two main surface streets (or I-90 and one surface street, but I try to avoid it because I hate tolls). His commute is 2 hours +. Nope nope nope. Id love to do that walk in the morning, but maybe not so much in the afternoon! Some of the people here choose to live in a faraway suburb, or even the next state over, and do 1 2+ hour commutes. My husband is job hunting, and everything he sees is either in Orange County or on the West Side (were in the East Valley). Everyone highway has traffic other cars being on the road doesnt mean everyone has to drive slowly. She once got caught in the pass and it took her 6 hours. At this point, Im spending about 20% on housing costs. So maybe theyre shaving some time off to make the LA one seem even worse in comparison? Day. Im in D.C. and two hours is long, but definitely not weird here. Its short on the commuter rail which is really restrictive in terms of times. I would 100% not be able to do that. But Ive done the 1.5+ hour commute for years at a time. ), and though the traffic there isnt as bad as LA, its certainly giving it competition. OP is far from an outlier, but it doesnt mean she HAS to keep up a brutal drive like that. The Northeast is pretty good, but the West was largely developed after the invention of cars and things are much more spread out / there has been less investment in public transportation. Angeleno here and definitely not. Well the freeway goes over the Columbiaunless they create a much taller bridge it has to be a drawbridge. At rush hour, it can take 40 minutes or more, but I usually have the luxury of working from home in the morning and then going to the office. Most of my colleagues travel at least an hour to an hour and a half, and mostly by mass transit. At least with my commute it is just me in the car (with my audiobooks or silence, depending on my mood). To be fair, Walnut Creek to San Jose/Peninsula is 45 min. We live close to several freeways so that helps his commute a lot. A common saying here is to live where you work and thats exactly what I did. Taking the train or local Staten Island bus, to the Staten Island ferry, to the Manhattan subway, could easily take two hours from south-shore Staten Island to midtown Manhattan if a subway was delayed or the ferry was running a modified schedule. And if you paid extra for the express bus, and there was an accident jamming up one of the highways or bridges it literally could take shorter to fly from JFK to Florida than to travel 15 or so miles from Staten Island to Manhattan. On the East Coast you get commutes like that between CT and NY -northern CT. New York to Philadelphia (1.5 hours by train) or DC and Northern Virginia/ Maryland. I hope you find the perfect combination. Distance in miles is not how the commute is measured in LA/OC, and a 2-hour commute could be entirely normal based on where you live. OP, if you cant quit (or even if you can) I strongly advise you take steps to make your commute as nice and relaxing as possible! Its a parking lot because theres too many cars taking up physical space for there to even be room to drive at the limit. By working out early, youll miss the morning commute. Honestly, my hackles go up when one person says I feel this way/have this opinion and another person tells them, well, its NOT NORMAL to feel that way/have that opinion. Lolol. Thats why people consider dating people who live on opposite ends of LA to be long-distance relationships. I cant imagine wasting 2-3 additional hours of my day just getting to/from work. You forgot all of the American citizens (from all over) with legal licenses who drive like utter shit. At one point, my ATL commute was 2 hours each way, and that was a bit much. I told myself my commute was just 3.5 hr of reading time that I normally wouldnt allow myself, so really, I was the lucky one (positivity and denial were really helpful too!) Driving would be too stressful. I have a life, I actually see my kids, and small houses are way easier to clean. Now I live in Charlotte, NC, and my drive is 20 minutes (25 at the most.) I got a new job. Theres a reason, despite improved public transportation, we love our cars. Mine used to be 15 minutes each way; now its more like 30 minutes each way, part of which is walking time because my assigned parking is nowhere near my office. 30 miles seems like a long commute distance-wise for the LA area, but 2 hours is what I would expect that to take during rush hour. Bay Area commutes can be awful, too, depending on where youre going. Yes, why? (I was born and raised in LA but now live in Santa Barbara; we have traffic jams at rush hour now too but of LA strengthyet.). Id say your 2 hours commute is definitely on the LONG end for LA commutes, but its also not out of the ordinary, considering how bad our traffic is. Thank you :D. I use them to read books that I wouldnt have purchased or spent valuable eye-reading time on, and Ive discovered a few favorite authors that I wouldnt have expected. Thats a horrifying commute. I do NE Glendale to Pasadena (which is counter to the majority of traffic) and its 10-20 minutes. The average commute in the UK is around 59 minutes per day (both ways combined). Ive never worked more than a 20-25 drive away, and once had a commute that was 2-3 minutes! I actually had a lecture about this in college. However I do have a lot of flexibility about WFH and hours (lots of early morning calls), so it all works pretty well for me. Former New Yorker who moved to LA. There wasnt really anything heated in that series, and the narrator had great range (different voices for surly teenager to old mother goose). I rent a house, and am SO grateful not to be the one that had to pay for repairs! Is it right? She thought she was lucky because she only worked 4 days a week. Everyone has to consider how much more theyre willing to spend to save time getting to work (or how much of a pay cut theyre willing to take to get a job closer to home). DC has a total population of like 600,000 people, but huge numbers commute in from MD and VA every day for work. When I left, even though there were issues I had with burnout, the position, etc., citing the commute as my primary reason smoothed things over a lot. Yes, this. Thats how crazy two hours is. About 70 minutes of that is on the commuter rail though, and the rest of it is getting to Providence Station and getting from Boston South Station to my workplace via the Red Line. He missed the birth of our baby. NYC. Eventually, I moved to the SGV. This post gave my traumatic flashbacks. Luckily, I discovered I liked the SGV after working in the area for awhile. I learned that I was not cut out for that kind of commute. I hate driving to his and he hates driving to mine. This one doesn't sound like it is. (?). We practice high quality, compassionate medicine with an emphasis on client education and . Also, as some mentioned below, many freeways go through sketchy areas and I would not feel comfortable exiting. Peak hours? And what would be 3am traffic here in SD on the freeways. I used to do Reading-Aldgate and it was one of factors that contributed to my looking for another job. Anything more would made me very anxious. Orange County comes up in a search for LA in idealist.org, so I didnt even realize it wasnt the same as LA. I live AND work in Redwood City (also SF Bay Area) and it takes me 20 minutes. Moving to a huge metro area later taught me as someone who needs time between leaving and arriving at work, 45 minutes is my absolute max for city commutes and 1.5 for country miles. So which one we shop at is based entirely on who is driving that day. How long does everyone commute daily? Feb 7 2021 1 hr 1 min. In New York, my commute, door to door, from Soho to Bushwick was about 35-45 minutes, which included a 20-minute subway ride. Car pool to share the annoyance of the road. A big difference for the NYC person is that So Cal has lots and lots of space to sprawl (so we did pushing living spaces and working spaces further and further apart) and we are car obsessed. My longest was 2 hours one way but I worked 24 hour shifts 8 times a month so it not as awful as it could have been. If it's a good work opportunity you might as well give it a try. Really helps clear our evenings. Let me guess you drive the 405 every day? The only thing about the train is it takes forever to get anywhere so, kind of like your 2-hour commute, but without you having to steer :). I didnt end up taking the job, but I thought that the honesty was nice probably better than losing someone to the culture shock. I can do the drive in 20-30 minutes, depending what time I leave. Its weird that your boyfriends response is, everybodys doing it (we arent, I promise.). That said, I do still miss the beach and weather a ton. The comment lacks compassion but I dont see how its a big red flag. 40 x 5 = 200, or over 3 hours. I go visit my guy up that way once a week now and I marvel that I did that commute 5 days a week for 5 years. If youre interested in going that route, Lunacycle is an ebike manufacturer based in El Segundo that you could visit. ), and I will have some time for me again. Some are cut out for it. Youll just have to figure out what works for you, and is sustainable long-term. Its the big reason I havent bought a home, and possible never will (at least until I retire). My parents are the same waysmall city folk who come to visit in my mid-size city and are like, Do we HAVE to drive downtown? And when Im home they encourage me not to go places during rush hour, which equals just steady, moving traffic. My current drive isnt bad at all, but it is certainly not as pleasant as riding the bus. Unfortunately, the OP chose to ignore the data that was given about the job. I live in the Houston area (suburb & commute to the loop) and my job is 20 miles from me which is anywhere from 45 minutes- 1hr 15 minutes an an average day. When I go home to visit, I wont even get behind the wheel any longer. I make the most out of my commute today by listening to podcasts, and it doesnt bug me at all, but when I moved here from the Midwest (where I had a 7 minute commute), I absolutely *hated* my commute every day. They offer typical traffic estimates. What had been no big deal became a stressor. This is my current reality. The holiday rate is payable for all call-back hours which correspond to the employee's regular tour hours (non-overtime hours). Also, thats also why SoCal folks tend to describe distance by time to get there versus actual miles/kilometers it really depends on how busy/connected points A & B are. It was horrible and I wasnt even driving for most of it! Are there poorly placed stops right after the off ramps that jam them up? Ive been to LA to visit family and really hated it. Eventually I just gave in and didnt even bother leaving until after 9am and getting in around 9:45 and staying until almost 7pm. Opps.looks like you already work out in the morning. I would also make the argument that the significant amount of truck traffic driven from the port adds a considerable amount they have to go slower in traffic since it takes them longer to stop. I moved northeast from my job in Fairfield county, CT and went from 20 mins each way to at least an hour, sometimes 90 mins. It can be normal just off of congestion. My commute is now about 20 minutes (a little worse in the afternoon, but I dont have to take the freeway). Or you know, just doing the laundry. Might feel a bit tired that one day but if you can wfh the rest of the time you're more than making up for it. The only saving grace was that a lot of this commute was by public transport (Europe is amazing), so on my morning 1.5-hr bus ride Id sleep, and on my evening 1.5-hr bus ride Id read. Seconding this, having just escaped the bay area. About half of the route is alongside parks so there are no street corners to negotiate. 1000 cars can go 60 mph just as well as 10 cars as long as theyre all going the same speed. The rage was real. Yeah, no, I would consider 2 hours each way to be completely unsustainable. Today, its more like 2.5. Yeah my other sister lives in Issaquah, and I hear the traffic is getting just as bad as it is where Im at now. But I pay for that convenience. I considered that a good commute it was the shortest one I had the whole time I lived there. There are people commuting from Sacramento to San Franciscono kidding! I feel lame for being so picky, but thats a LOT of time out of your life! Ive since moved, but my 10 mile commute still take 30-45 minutes each morning. can I get my coworker to stop using awful corporate jargon? Lately, Ive started bringing my laptop and working, so perhaps Ill start leaving earlier and spending less time at the office. As the crow flies, my commute is 4 miles. I am definitely looking for something closer and started shooting out my resume to 10 miles within LB, and got a few bites already. These are my hard limits: Going there was pretty much OK since it was later in the morning. Transit trips tend to be longer on average than driving commutes, which can be because of the added time of transfers/connecting/slower travel, but also because people are willing to tolerate longer transit trips than driving trips since they can zone out/sleep/read/work en route. And frankly, New Yorkers may believe theyre more stand-offish, but youre more likely to be entirely ignored by the other passengers in CA than in NY. Yuuuuuup. Could sometimes shave a few minutes by taking the freeway, but PCH was always, always worth the the extra 10 or so. But my boyfriend, who was born and raised in Orange County, keeps insisting a two-hour commute is normal. All my other commutes have been around 30 mins. Weve got kids and paying 2k+/month for a 2 bed apartment anywhere within 45 minutes wasnt happening. But as another lifelong Bay Arean, I agree that 2-hour commutes in the central Bay Area are not common. 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