Those with Capitol One on-sale codes were rescheduled to buy tickets Wednesday at 2 p.m. local venue time. If were at this moment in a 20-year cycle where everyone is unhappy with how this model is working, outside of probably the labels, then there is opportunity for someone to do something very creative and disruptive. Image source: taylorswift. LOS ANGELES, CA Trying to buy Taylor Swift tickets for the Eras Tour? (The Associated Press / AP Newsroom), GET FOX BUSINESS ON THE GO BY CLICKING HERE. Thats what Im saying. ", Swift said that the Eras Tour would kick off on March 18, 2023, in Glendale, Arizona, and conclude on Aug. 5, 2023, in Los Angeles. Were done. If the songs are just marketing for tour tickets, then you should put the songs everywhere you can all the time. I had a boost email from TaylorNation, she wrote. Queues for the West Coast tours in Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Santa Clara, and Seattle will open at 2:30 p.m., Ticketmaster reported over Twitter. Nov 18 2022 by Eden Arielle Gordon. There are people getting better label deals than ever before because they are building their own fanbases. It was probably very difficult for an indie artist, because distribution was more challenging then. In a previous statement, Ticketmaster said more than 3.5 million people pre-registered for verified fan, the largest registration in the companys history. You want to own the most amount of that master recording as you possibly can. She also shared the names of the performers who will be joining her onstage for her opening acts, including Paramore, Phoebe Bridgers and HAIM, before ending with a message to her fans: "I can't WAIT to see your gorgeous faces out there. Because all the way up to Midnights, she has been a master of marketing an album, but nobody knew at the time that this was going to happen. So is everyone else. You have to make it on your own. That is a huge part of why Apple is betting on Atmos. When I say streaming is on the rocks, what Im getting at is that its still not as valuable to anyone as it should be. Do you think she, as an artist, understood that this change was coming and was changing her strategy? "Daily reminder that Ticketmaster is a monopoly, its [sic] merger with LiveNation should never have been approved, and they need to be reigned [sic] in. That is not at all how it works. According to Ticketmaster's recent release, West Coast ticket sales scheduled to begin at 10 a.m. PST would be pushed back to 3 p.m. Colleagues of ours at Vox had a great story about the TikTok to Spotify pipeline. "We had 14 million people hit the site, including bots, which are not supposed to be there.". We can probably model some churn based on if theyre listening to great music from the 50s or 60s. FOX Business Flash top headlines for November 17. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided byRefinitiv Lipper. (Fox News Digital / Fox News), Many fans sat in the Ticketmaster queue and were told they would need to start the process over. But the labels, they navigate it. We've been doing this for decades together and over the years, I've brought so many elements of my career in house. It used to be that you sold the music, and all the other stuff was just promotion for the music as this thing you sold. But yes, you were promoting the thing that you could sell. Obviously, with an NFT, you dont have to front the cost of a tour and you dont have to manufacture clocks. For example: based on the volume of traffic to our site, Taylor would need to perform over 900 stadium shows (almost 20x the number of shows she is doing)that's a stadium show every single night for the next 2.5 years. I dont know. The one that comes to mind for me immediately and instantly is TikTok. Say you only listen to Guns N Roses for an hour that month, but everybody else listens to Taylor for like 24 / 7, the entire time. She eventually had to go to where her listeners were. Just to put a pin in it, highlight it, circle it, bold, italic, and underline that inversion. Are there any other artists that have done it differently or better than she has? She had bumps along the road doing so. A lot of songwriters liked that model. That is going to be very, very lucrative for her. I think that they were smart to chase what the people were doing. The company noted that although they only gave out 1.5 million presale codes, the site was overwhelmed on the day of the sale due to fans who showed up without a code and a "staggering number of bot attacks.". The next thing, or at least the promise of the next thing from some very motivated members of the industry, is crypto shit. (Matt Winkelmeyer/TAS18/Getty Images for TAS / Getty Images). I would pick Lil Nas X as well. Theres a limit on venues and they all seem monopolistically controlled. All Rights Reserved, By submitting your email, you agree to our. The company later said that over 3.5 million users pre-registered for the sale, making it the largest registration in Ticketmaster history. I have just not been happy to see how the mad rush of everybody into printing funny little pictures happened. Shawn Mendes was a Vine star. "Its a function of Taylor Swift. Okay. All those folks who had secured really great deals and contracts, and who were making lots of money, were very upset by the piracy that started to take place around 2000. Thats all flipped now. You and some of your listeners can dispute this, but music is not a technology business. Microsoft has failed a few times. The first leg of the tour will be in stadiums across the US, with international dates to be announced as soon as we can!" Lets just be more explicit about that to make it really clear for people. If chosen for the presale, fans were sent. Shes not asking them to buy the record again. Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. Im not going to make excuses for anyone because we asked them, multiple times, if they could handle this time of demand and we were assured they could, Swift said of the ticket fiasco. They dont know how much listening is going to happen during that time, and they dont know exactly how much revenue theres going to be in any given time period either. If you were a songwriter like Taylor Swift, you would also get a cut of the publishing royalties. They just had to figure out how to monetize it. Taylor Swift, Ticketmaster to release more 'Eras Tour' tickets for Verified Fans Sheri Walsh 12/13/2022 Like Comments Dec. 12 (UPI) -- Taylor Swift gave Verified Fans some good karma. People use these platforms to hopefully up-level off of those platforms into places where they can secure more acclaim, revenue, et cetera. The ticket-selling. I wasnt going to buy the nine-song record because CDs at my local Best Buy were very expensive. That turned into a weird interstitial revenue moment for the industry. If so, I think this is where all the hedge funds buying up these music catalogs will have been overwhelmingly right, and they will shove it in our faces and say, Look, this stuff was worth a hundred times more than what you thought it was, because when youre in these virtual worlds, all you want to do is have some great background music going on. Unless that all just gets written by AIs, then maybe not. Sign up for free Patch newsletters and alerts. Walk us through why Taylor wants to re-record her songs, and how this connects to the big catalog sales were seeing from artists like Neil Young, and there was a report about Dr Dre over the weekend. There are many reasons to find another planet, and the music industry is obviously top of the list. Its very possible that someone might need this company because with music, to your point, you cant bet against the internet. I was talking about this with my friend Charlie Harding, the co-host of Switched on Pop, and he said that he thinks the upcoming Taylor Swift The Eras Tour is itself the end of an era in music that the age of cheap streaming services is coming to an inevitable conclusion and that something has to change in order for the industry to sustain itself in the future. "We apologized for the difficulties you may have experienced, and have been asked by Taylor's team to create this additional opportunity for you to purchase tickets.". That is a monopoly. The price of fuel is an increasing cost. Because its marketing. We have to see how big your TikTok is before we ever sign the deal.. I mean, we are putting that in the metaverse right away. I got them throught Ticketmaster. Potential ticket buyers shared their frustrations on social media, comparing their experience to The Hunger Games and calling on Ticketmaster and Swift to address the debacle. In response to the presale fiasco, more than two dozen Swifties teamed up and filed a lawsuit against Live Nation Entertainment. On Thursday, Ticketmaster canceled its general sale of the tour tickets that was supposed to debut on Friday after hours of complaints about pre-sale site complications and glitches. There are still cracks in the model, right? As much as this streaming model may not be a good business, music is a really essential part of our culture. A report from our colleagues at Vox showed that less than 10 percent of those artists that broke out on TikTok in the 2020 window have gone on to create a successful touring career with people showing up and buying tickets. The company did not say whether more tickets would be sold for the tour at a later date. The site was supposed to open up for 1.5 million verified Taylor Swift fans," Maffei said. So I think something could happen there. She certainly wants to own this asset for the amount of money that can be made in streaming. Search. "It obviously wasn't meant to be if we didn't get tickets but we're upset. Her action has been to say, Well, Im just going to re-record all my music, and hopefully my fans will listen to my version versus the version that I dont own.. Thats why Im saying its way more than TikTok. Obviously, young Taylor Swift was going to want to have a great record deal so that her music could end up in every single store and car stereo. At some point, she should go see her family. The company said the cancelation was triggered by unprecedented demand, with more than 3.5 million people pre-registered to get an access code for purchasing tickets. Even before ticket sales kicked off, the demand for Swift's upcoming tour was high so much so that the Midnights singer added an . Now theyre saying, You need a following. The services are built on music, like audio trends, dances, and memes. All rights reserved. On November 15, 2022, the first day of pre-sale of tickets to verified fans for the US leg of the Eras Tour (2023) by American singer-songwriter Taylor Swift, Ticketmaster's official website crashed following "historically unprecedented demand with millions showing up", halting the pre-sale. Spotify is one of the only major music streaming platforms not owned by a big tech company, and people want them to disentangle their revenues and their costs in a way that could sink the business a business which already doesnt make money. Ticketmaster has claimed that demand for Swift's tour was record-setting: More than 3.5 million people signed up for the Verified Fan presale, 1.5 million were given presale codes, and more. Amazon Music is going to be fine because Amazon is fine. Its beautifully made music, and I understand that they were all dating each other and you can just hear the pain, but I find it tedious and boring. "I never could have imagined how insane this whole process has been," one of Swift's fans, Amber Garis, told CBS Mornings. 2022 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. Perhaps TikTok is going to launch its own music service, but that would still put them in the world of just being yet another streamer. A podcast from The Verge about big ideas and other problems. As I said, if youre the rights-holder, if youre the label or if you own the master recording, there is a lot of money to be made. Shes a great musician, shes also just very good at making money. Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour See Tickets Mar 25 Sat 6:30pm Allegiant Stadium - Las Vegas , NV Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour See Tickets Apr 13 Thu 6:30pm Raymond James Stadium - Tampa, FL Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour See Tickets Apr 14 Fri 6:30pm Raymond James Stadium - Tampa, FL Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour See Tickets Apr 15 Sat 6:30pm The singer commented on the issue on her Instagram story on Friday, saying that Ticketmaster had assured her team "multiple times" they "could handle this kind of demand. Its obvious. It wasnt at its lowest, but it was dropping quickly. We map her big moves against the business of music over time to try to see if this really is the end of an era. No, no, no. She has committed hard to the songwriting and music thing, and this next tour is set to supposedly maybe make her a billionaire. Right. Music is an art creation business, a content creation business. Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. A lot of her early records were released on CD, but by Red, there was a lot of pressure to put things on streaming. We can talk. The next decade of her life was basically one battle after another with streamers, trying to make things better. The labels go along with this because functionally, they have no choice. When fans eagerly showed up to try and purchase tickets on Nov. 15, however, they were met with a litany of issues on the Ticketmaster website. "You were selected for this opportunity because you have been identified as a fan who received a boost during the Verified Fan presale but did not purchase tickets," it continued. You have to enter the content creator world and build your identity off that. We kind of know what they are. Theyre just like, I dont understand, big tech company. First published on November 18, 2022 / 1:08 PM. They just get put out for digital distribution. Dude, music licensing is so freaking complicated. ", Taylor Swift's 10th studio album, "Midnights," was released on Oct. 21. Along with the tour announcement came information about how fans could score tickets. It's going to happen," Swift said when asked by the host, adding, "We will do it and it will be great.". No, because its the total amount of listening. The whole model feels utterly precarious right now. And yet, not all the people are as rich as they should be. From how the chaos ensued to the response it's provoking from lawmakers, here's everything to know about the debacle surrounding Ticketmaster and Taylor Swift's Eras Tour. If the point of the big streaming inversion was, Were going to move the $20 transaction from you paying for the song to you paying for the experience, that to me is yet more evidence that this thing is on a precipice. They want to buy their music. Taylor Swift, interestingly enough, is a great way of looking at the different eras of the music industry, of when they began and when they ended. What Im getting at is that they made physical things. "Even our competitors want to come on our platform. Just by Googling the name of the song, you can probably find a way to listen to it. We should just do a mashup of that sigh across all episodes. If music was working, you could keep leaning harder into it, but its not the future of that business. There was a nice moment where ringtones started to cushion some of the revenues. A group of 25 incensed Taylor Swift fans from across the country are suing Ticketmaster for fraud and intentional misrepresentation after last month's Eras tour debacle. She got into a big fight with Apple Music, which wanted to give Apple Music away to new subscribers for free for three months in order to build a user base. 2023 Vox Media, LLC. Taylor Swift addressed the recent controversy surrounding Ticketmaster's handling of tickets for her upcoming Eras tour. This is what I keep coming back to. It literally is the same. Lets talk about the last $20 that the industry thinks it might be asking for. The tour, which will be a "journey through the musical eras" of Swift's career, is set to kick off next March in Arizona. ", "It goes without saying that I'm extremely protective of my fans," she said. The music that we are able to listen to is music that can be monetized. High demand for Taylor Swift concert tickets led Ticketmaster to delay the West Coast pre-sale. On Thursday, Ticketmaster canceled its general sale of the tour tickets that was supposed to debut on Friday after hours of complaints about pre-sale site complications and glitches. The series of concerts is . Okay, theyre working to sell my product because they have a financial stake in the product too.. Apples basically saying, Listen, in order to launch a streaming service, we need a ton of users. That helped persuade me eventually, but most of us were just trying to listen to everything that we wanted whenever we wanted. Maybe you buy a movie on iTunes for $20 or $30. A few hours after the sale's planned start time, Ticketmaster tweeted that the issues were due to "historically unprecedented demand" and announced it was pushing back the start times for some West Coast venues. But that share of the 100,000 songs a day that are being uploaded to Spotify from artists that are just getting going, I think a lot of those might actually never even come close to collecting $20. Despite the disruptions, the statement explained, the Nov. 15 sale broke the Ticketmaster record for most tickets sold for an artist in a single day, selling over 2 million tickets. Ringtones was one of them.. There was like a 10-year dark era, the Middle Ages, where the industry was searching for the next thing. Invites will also be staggered by tour dates in each city. I have to say, Im not following it too closely because its such a complex ecosystem. I remember Steve Jobs saying, People dont want to rent their music. That would be nice and simple, but no, that is not at all how it works. Ticketmaster later chalked the disaster up to "historically unprecedented demand," though Swift had some choice words for the company in her response, noting that she and her team had "asked them, multiple times, if they could handle this kind of demand and we were assured they could." Willing to separate in pairs of 2 for $1350 each pair! >Selling to be able to purchase for a different date as my dad has his doctoral graduation that day . Does streaming keep on working? Here's Everything to Know. Those verified fans were informed by email Monday that they would be individually invited to put dibs on a purchase request by Dec. 23, with a two-ticket limit. The royalty rights werent necessarily better, and it just depends on the structure of any given persons deal, but things were much more assured. The singer's team has announced that some verified fans who weren't able to buy tickets last month will get a second chance. Oftentimes you can buy greatest hits records, and its not actually the greatest hits, its re-recordings of the greatest hits. Earlier that morning, Liberty Media CEO Greg Maffei (Liberty owns part of Live Nation, of which Ticketmaster is a subsidiary), had blamed the situation on the "massive demand" for Swift tickets during an interview with CNBC. The way you make more money is often either by getting your stuff to more people or by being some middleman who gets a better, stronger contract. There is a physical good side to the re-release and there is money to be made there, but the other side is the licensing and the intellectual property. If 20 years ago there was a, No streaming ever, were only ever going to sell CDs, to the, I dont want to hear a minute-long test version of a song, before you buy it on iTunes, there was a lot of holding back of their intellectual property. It's really difficult for me to trust an outside entity with these relationships and loyalties, and excruciating for me to just watch mistakes happen with no recourse.". Its both, because she is putting out vinyl. Im pulling my back catalog. That was bold, because by 2014, the winds were in the sails of streaming. That to me is the thing that might change it in the TikTok context. The era of the unknown, unsigned person who has not been on social media being discovered by a major label is over, unless youre a famous person or nepo baby. Its still not the entire penny. While it's impossible for everyone to get tickets to these shows, we know we can do more to improve the experience and that's what we're focused on," it concluded. Thats to get you all the way down to, Okay, now Im just handing you $20 again. Or in the case of Taylor Swift, $6,000 for a ticket for a floor seat or whatever. And that is true; I am on guitar solo TikTok. Here's How Ticketmaster Plans to Sell the Remaining 170,000 Taylor Swift 'Eras Tour' Tickets. Many fans sat in the Ticketmaster queue and were told they would need to start the process over. So the person who took that bad record deal in the past, who does have the right to the songwriting, can re-record it and make more money off that record. The expectation from the fans now is that youre going to mount a spectacle. I mean, well find out. Now its listens over time. All 2 million tickets for the Verified Fan onsale were sold to Verified Fans. Now every single time that people stream these songs, she gets more of the share of that stream if they listen to Taylors version. It thinks the Switched on Pop TikTok account is an in-recovery smoker who is really into a bunch of very dated movie references. There are just countless ways that people are trying to use these, including ownership of actual music, being able to have an exclusive license to music, or weird pictures of gifs that were made by an AI. Thats why they want to do podcasts and why they have original videos. You just need a safe space of Guns N Roses fans making only Guns N Roses content. As an old-school punk rock guy, there is a part of me that deeply vibes with his ability to be subversive, and it transcends the fact that he broke out on TikTok. Yes, CDs basically tanked because everybody realized, I want to listen to all the music, and I dont really want to pay for it. CDs were expensive. The iPod is out, but Apple is still saying, Rip. Its just like, Youre going to have to deal with it.. Thank you for your patience as we continue managing this huge demand.. They want to have a relationship with it. This was a religious war inside the tech and media industries. Its all out there. Theyre like, Great, we know that revenues are growing. David Hasselhoff is still doing well in Germany. Once they sign up, theres going to be a whole pool of money, and youre going to get it later., That doesnt really make sense when youre like, Yes, but I sold you the thing now and theyre listening to it now, so I should be getting paid now. This goes especially for artists who finally get their royalty payment many quarters later. Maybe I dont know myself. Market data provided byFactset. There was maybe a simplicity, a clarity, to how the business worked. Yes, in the early 2010s, artists like Adele and Coldplay were also saying, Hey, were not down with this. There are hundreds of people who have been signed now off of the platform to label deals. ", The singer added that she was investigating why the situation unfolded the way it did and how it could be improved in the future. She just wont stop. Its this massive spectacle, the Future Nostalgia Tour looks amazing, but shes like permanently on tour. There are no founder-friendly music labels out there. Your Spotify or Apple Music monthly fee is cheaper than Netflix, HBO Max, or whatever else, and you get more. There are no artists making billions of dollars through streaming as far as Im aware, but that said, there is certainly money to be made. Shes currently re-releasing all of her old albums. TAYLOR Swift is set to release more tickets for her The Eras Tour after thousands of fans missed out on Ticketmaster. You need to be posting many times a day, and you need to be figuring out how to create whole moments every single week in order to maintain attention when theres so much other material that people could be focused on. 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