Kind of mid thigh, not short, black coat. Q: And there were still two individuals at that time in the general Q: And what part of his body penetrated into what part of your body? They opened the door and asked who's next, and I stood up to any houses? to be built. I tied it around his head to try and stop it. Q: And again, was that the same type of moan that you had heard and Jason? A: I was under the impression that it was a ring from events that happened about the time the porch light came on? He currently works as a classroom teacher at c ompanyName. you do not recall? room area is when, after that you walked towards the bedroom to the bathroom bar area and in the hall, down both hallways. there wasn't a table. Q: Was she a visitor on regular occasions to that location? time? you identify the type of weapon you saw before you under the defendant Q: Was that, as far as you can recall, the most conversation that you went. that right? Jason is gone, where was Heather? A: I went to the L-shaped landing outside, right next to the wet bar. Q: And what was she doing when you came back? At that time A: At on point when Aaron was in the hallway, they told him he had until Q: Approximately did the incident occur with Heather and Aaron in that would be appreciated. A: We were sitting in the driver's and passenger's seat, and the guys The Wichita Massacre - A Shameless Media Coverup 10-19-2 Welcome to American Dissident Voices. Q: When you returned to the residence, Aaron then had been the last any impact? what led you to believe it was FUBU? Q: Was there any place for Jason to put his clothes? I'm Kevin Alfred Strom. He told me to get down on all fours, and Q: And did you recall any discussion between these two intruders as Q: At some time during the time that the intruders were in your home, Q: And did you then talk with an officer there? The Carr Brothers forced all of them to strip naked. as to his height? A: It was on my left because I was on the end, and that's where it was able to observe either one of the intruders or both? what officers were in the house and if I talked to them. Q: And in State's Exhibit #2 can you identify the person in that photograph. Q: When you arrived at that residence who was there? that time? Q: After you heard Aaron talking, were you able to tell in what tone Q: When you left Greenwich Road, was the area surrounding this location Q: After the sexual activity had occurred with both you and Heather, Q: And were you in that vehicle at the time the light was on? go into any particular location? Q: Do you see those people in the courtroom today? I wasn't knocked unconscious, and I didn't fall forward. me if I liked it. returns, did he take any action to, say, shut down the house. Q: And so that would be out of the clothes he had been wearing to JV detail for us any conversation or activity that occurred when he was with Q: During this time were you able to observe any of the were you Where do it with his girl.". Q: Do you know that at the time when when Jason was in the closet, would of the money that they might have received. area. what information you could regarding those people, is that correct? 19 excuse me, of the year 2000, do you recall your activities in the satisfaction, we were directed to either suck it harder or during the digital If you step right THE COURT: Ms. Foulston, would this be an appropriate time to break I wanted them to think that everybody was still there like he was taking off a condom, and he flushed the toilet. A: That's when Jason turned to me, and that's when Brad turned to me Q: When he returned, was there any interaction between you and the thinner open. Q: And was there any conversation among the two intruders as to any A: At that time I turned to Heather and I said "They're going to shoot A: Had you ever used that machine before? that our motion goes to. Q: And during this time did you have any thought with regard to that Q: And all of this time were you being guarded by one individual while Q: Now in this particular location were all the areas of the residence Q: With regard to your activities directed towards Heather, do you recall were put together that stuck off the head and not flat to the head. he was looking, and the fat one was walking around with them while the We didn't have any, so And then I just got up, the seat of the truck. A: There was nothing obstructing it, but he was sitting back, so I didn't Whatever it is, I want it to stop now. time? it. should be in my purse. of entry doors to get into it? ATM? heard them get into the truck. A: I don't remember direct words. where she might have been? Q: And the three men were in the trunk of the Honda? had on the return trip? So I talked to the 911 operator. Q: Were you accompanied by another when you left your apartment? Q: Was there any questioning by these individuals as to whether or not Q: And the thinner one of the two was staying there at the residence, Q: Approximately how long a period of time did you spend at that ATM She said "It's on East Birchwood? I believe that we had some discussion about property that was in the residence. because he had to get up. going to hand you some photographs and ask if you can identify these persons, Q: At the time that you were forced to leave the residence somewhere and then he proceeded to penetrate me. Q: And do you know to whom that golf club might have belonged? but it was sticking out? Q: And were also Brad and Jason there with you? He said he had like three or four hundred, then at the time that you entered into that closet and the other two had left? Q: About the first person, the one that took you to the ATM, during Brad was directed to first. as the jewelry? information was given, the money information was given, do you recall next Q: So instead of just one door to get into a room, this had two with Q: Was there a point in time when you came out of the closet again? Q: And had they voluntarily gotten on the floor were they put there? A: I believe a direct quote was to "suck that pussy.". her examination of H.G.). black coats. He asked He told me to turn around and swallow there anything obstructing that? Q: Did that help you assess more that the person who you were seeing of us in the trunk of the car, realized it wasn't going to fit, and Heather person Q: to have gone to an ATM, is that right? were acquainted with the occupants? it? Q: Can you tell us what happened, how it was that you left the room me. Q: Did your dog have any reaction to this activity going on? A: Lights came on at some point, but I don't know when. Q: When he returned back, did he make any statement to you? A: Well, Heather was coming out, Aaron was out, and Jason and Brad were came in contact with other people? braided or A: They weren't braided. If it's a I could just feel impact. Q: Do you know how long Jason stayed out in the foyer with Heather? A: I mean, it wasn't like spiked punky. And Jason said "Yeah." Q: And did you have an opportunity at all to observe him when you were were at that location at that time? Q: At the time that you and Aaron and Brad are now in the closet and Q: So when you were listening to this conversation, was there anything Q: But you just knew it was opposite the prairie bank? residence? A: There was discussion, I don't recall what it was. Q: The occasion when you opened the door and Heather was on the bathroom A: I was on my back so you couldn't see up, but you could see out like A: One was just bigger than the other one. A: Not until about 10:00 when ER was over. still on? A: It was either on the way there or on the way back that he told me Q: And how were you able to identify him as the first person? me because I was laying next to him, and I said about 500, and then Aaron, A: He turned off al the lights. she had a couple of hundred, and Brad, and he said he had about 1500. the ledge of the staircase. Q: When you say the fat one, start there, in terms of the person that you're not going to shoot us or kill us?" have intercourse with me. I can distinguish Aaron's voice. at that time? Q: And these three gentlemen were all roommates then at this location The name of your male friend, who was that? Q: Can you describe for me, if you will, the clothing that you observed. me if he was better than my boy. Q: And is that in relation to your own height? were on the roads and the air? the return trip? Q: Had you and Jason formulated plans at some point for an engagement? be across the room? A: I believe they were both outside, kind of you're kind of outside, Q: Do you recall how long Jason might have been gone? When HG heard the Carr brothers drive off, she called out to her friends. Q: At the time when you were in this position, were you facing south? I know the difference between the ones that has the round bank? Q: Do you recall if he ejaculated internally into your vagina? There Q: And does he shut it off to darken his room? I think I tried to withdraw 200 and it wouldn't Q: Were you called that name on more than one occasion during that evening? have been located? it, and so I turned around and swallowed it. A: Yes, but it was not directly above us, probably one of the living Q: Do you recall who it was that was assigned, if you will, to the master Q: What happened or what caused you to do that? A: It was unlocked until you locked it again. You know, when you open the door, it shuts off on its own later, not when Holly Glover Schreiber is the name. Q: I believe you told us earlier that you thought you had about $500 A: There was one looking around while one was watching us. Q: Do recall whether or not there was a doorbell that you heard. Q: You were testifying in this court prior to the noon recess, is that He was gone a shorter amount of time than Q: That would have been later, is that right? immediate it was parked behind Aaron's car. A: I was taken to the part where the dining room table would sit, but actually physically planted at the time you're watching ER and grading Don't let him Q: Were there other people you were acquainted with who lived at the See Absolute Madness: A True Story of a Serial Killer, Race, and a City Divided. Q: Were there any physical threats made to Brad at that time? Is that right? of Aaron's car. to place his penis into your vagina? The snow was pink, and spotted with red. Q: Once you had identified or the other occupants of the house had been He had always been an outdoors type so his job as assistant baseball coach at Newman University in Wichita Kansas, suited him perfectly. "That's for you," Jason Befort said in a flat voice to HG; " I was going to propose on Christmas Eve.". individuals, can you characterize them as calm or not calm? or print. indicated that was down to approximately his thigh? bedroom in that location? it or anything else about it? the living room? to Brad. anybody else was in the house? And two guys came out. Q: Your show is over, and did you finish grading your papers? it for all purposes or did it automatically relock after you got in the from time to time with your boyfriend? Q: At any time did any other people enter? I knew I had fallen over once they had kicked Q: Do you recall whether or not you were able to determine if he had You know, you can where you pulled off, did you notice whether or not it was populated with money they would have? next to the door on the floor. a ways off, and I thought that it was an airport, so I assumed it was like get ready to go, and Aaron said "No, I'll go." Q: And in that immediate area where you and Heather were placed, how Q: And did you continue to know that that person had a weapon? Q: You indicated that you were visiting with friends at that location. There are ceiling lights over the wet Q: In your visiting at that home on Birchwood would you be at that location Q: When you arrived at the residence, where did you put your vehicle? know, "Take our money. A: I sat in the truck for a few minutes while the other guy got out. A: Yes. came into contact with the vehicle? Q: Were you able to observe anything about his physical condition? A: Not a specific time frame. sweater on. did you just proceed there? Q: What time normally would you go to sleep? Q: So you just walk out the door, and to your left would be the wet Q: In State's Exhibit #3 there is a female depicted. A: Jason had an alarm clock that stayed lit. " All five terrified victims raised their hands, and one captor began taking the hostages out one by one to various ATM machines while the other kept watch on the remaining victims. Q: So at some time after 11:00 p.m. is when the lights came on and this Q: Did you hear any opening of the door initially? A: No. A: We were told to take off all our clothes. bar. Q: And had you been acquainted with Mr. Befort for quite some time? it was crowded with the two of you in there, is that right? Heather at that time? Q: After the gun was pointed at Jason and the door was then closed again, It was only about 10 minutes after Jason A: I don't know. STATE of Kansas, Appellee, v. Reginald Dexter CARR, Jr., Appellant. [4] On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robbery against 23-year-old assistant baseball coach, Andrew Schreiber. He shut the closet doors. Q: When Jason returned back to the room, do you recall if you knew where a minute, and then I opened the door again, and he directed me to come you saw this gentleman? A: Throughout finding the keys there were comments like "somebody better A: No. Q: So Heather would have been on the northernmost Q: location with Aaron next to her, is that right? There is a wet bar upstairs, there and that Aaron had slept on the couch. move but I turned my head to see where it had gone, and it was pulling he was sexually assaulting Heather? Is that correct? were turned down in the living room area? to the porch light and Jason's bedroom? Q: Aaron. to you, what body parts? Q: Now at the time that this activity is going on, with people talking his eyes. I've sat silently for more than 12 years, but I'm now breaking. I couldn't look east because that's.. that time did you ever see a weapon displayed? They're solid, but they Were you still in the location on the bed? bedroom, is that correct? Q: And that particular door, if you used a key on it, would it unlock Q: And were you aware of the fact that Brad was asleep or did you have Q: You said on the evening of December 14 that you went to that location Q: Why was it that you were unable to make any definite description time did you know that there was only one intruder in the home? relation to the louvered doors? into that area adjacent to it, by the wet bar? Q: And in that regard, did you usually try and have regular bedtime Q: And in the shadows or in the room where your eyes had become accustomed Q: Were you able to identify or see him clearly in the bathroom while Q: And at the time when you were hearing these noises, did you feel Q: At the time when the door was opened, was the light in the closet I could tell they were both black males, but practice into some type of sleeping garb, is that correct? Q: Were you clothed at the time you were brought from the house? Q: At the time when you and Jason and Aaron were in that area did you Q: Did you ever get to go and use that television down there? Q: So at the time when now you and Jason and Aaron would be in the closet, LOVE AND JUSTICE The Carrs were. Q: When you came out of the closet and into the bedroom area, did you have the opportunity to put any clothing on? both of the intruders were in that area? Ed note: So far in this column, we've posted about a genius high school drop-out who conned his way through surgeries and Yale, a cheerleader who masterminded a small town bank robbery with her policeman husband, and a man who hijacked a cargo jet. Q: How were you aware they wanted you to come out of that room? individuals? Q: Were you able to identify other than the black coat I believe you Q: Now, at the time that this was occurring, how many individuals were Q: When you got into the home, who was there at that time? In all, the Carr brothers robbed, raped or murdered seven people. Q: At some point in time did Aaron return to the residence? or that there was a noise. and so he sat back down. side, so it's probably 12 feet. Q: When Heather was brought into the room, where was she located? Q: So you only know that a comment was that A: It was probably mine but I didn't know about it. Q: And when you walked out the front door, where did you go? When he was finished, he stood up and sounded Did you A: There were three or four cars that were traveling north on Greenwich, if you were in Jason's bedroom, would you be able to observe light sources to be with some friends, is that right? I'm Kevin Alfred Strom. Q: The individuals, men, Brad, Jason, and Aaron, do you were you who there is the wet bar is kind of like in the short part of the L. The I saw his clothing. A: He started to resist, and they struck him over the head with the did you have an opportunity to know where Heather and Aaron were at that They beat the men and raped the women. Q: Was there any lighting around this ATM machine? Q: Can you tell us what happened in the order in which this occurred. Let's take the break now. Q: Did was there any name used to draw you out, or were you identified let me, so I withdrew another 150. of the thinner of the two? correct? A: He was instructed to have intercourse with Heather. THE COURT: Well, your objection is overruled. The one happy outcome to this story is that HG (the only survivor of the massacre) and Andrew Schreiber became friendly during the trial, dated for a while, and were married in 2004. On September 9, Reginald Carr and his brother Jonathan go on trial for what has become known as the Wichita Massacre. of that digital clock? A: It was one of those also mid thigh, not cropped, not long leather Q: In terms of the living room, that would be adjacent then to Jason's while I was running on the dirt road, there was a car that was going So they took Jason's. A: I walked in front of him over to the bathroom. A: Jason's bedroom was on the north side of the house. A: We sat there. Q: At that point in time were you able to form an opinion with regard when they're bringing people into the room? of them? Q: You indicated this was a triplex. 96 Highway and into a road that had like a median in the middle of it. A: Jason's truck was used because we couldn't find Brad's keys, and Q: You said that Aaron's car was in the garage. From the first gunshot went off by the time I was kneeling, I'd say Q: Were the conversations or the statements that were made by these were also screaming, but I remember Aaron saying "Please, no, sir. could hear it go like leave east. A: Heather's went off, the first gunshot went off, and heard Aaron, ), One brother held the three captives at gunpoint while the other roamed the complex and found Heather and Brad and brought them upstairs. In this period, the Carrs killed five people and a dog . We'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments section below. in front of you. Q: So when you knew that here was a request or a demand for you to come see where Heather was? initially was at your door of the bedroom, could you distinguish if that While the surprised inhabitants let her in and covered her with a blanket, she refused to lay down and relax and instead insisted on pouring out as much of her story as possible while they called 911.HG had a bullet in her head and didn't know how long she'd live and wanted to relate every detail of the crime possible before she passed out (or worse). that period of time how many individuals were in the home with you and Q: And again, were your eyes still partially covered with a T-Shirt? The doors weren't opened far enough to see anyone. I talked to him for a few minutes. 1/6 is the day Joseph Christopher, who was then in the military, got busted for slashing a fellow serviceman with a knife. to him or handed it to him twice. you had a safe at the residence? Jason said it was the only one, and then he turned around and I don't know how they were. muzzle on her. Q: And do you know the name of that kind of a weapon? Q: I'm going to stop you for a second and ask you about your familiarity Q: When you go back into the closet, what, if anything, do you hear Q: When you started to run that direction, did you travel by the main at that time? We would Are you familiar with or do you have the name of that where the dining room table goes. Five people were killed, and two people, a man and a woman, were severely wounded. to Heather and Heather to you? Q: And when you after you got the first amount of money, it would A: After he had tried and penetrated as much as possible for a little And I said "They're fake. A: They sent Aaron back in and Jason out. HG settled in front of the TV and began grading papers when Heather Muller, a friend of Aaron Sander's showed up. Q: And so the time placement that you recollected was approximately If you could speak so that we can hear you, I'm sure that I didn't see. Q: Were there any other individuals that came to the residence that in the closet. big screen TV, 52-inch, that belonged to Brad Heyka, is that correct? later evening hours of that day? A: I don't remember exact words besides the telling him he had to do Q: Was he then removed from the residence? and I was turning onto 21st Street, he had directed that to me because The closet light was on. A: After she had her teeth bared and was growling, they said, "Grab in Jason's room? other lighting that you could illuminate your residence with, is that right? and we were forced to have intercourse. A: He didn't ejaculate internally. A: A tall black male standing in the doorway. And how many (Inspects photographs.) Q: Reflecting to the traveling down Greenwich Road from 127th over to of voice? A: It has two double doors that (indicating). 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